Annie ([info]anniesj) wrote,
@ 2004-10-27 13:15:00
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Current mood: discontent
Current music:Aimee Mann -- Momentum

a word to the wise
For all my LJ-loving friends, this is a word of warning, a word to the wise, and a word of utter exhaustion after the wringer I've been put through in the last twenty-four hours.

A couple of weeks ago, following the last presidential debate, I said some rather inflammatory things about George W. Bush in a public post in my LJ, done in a satirical style. We laughed, we ranted, we all said some things. I thought it was a fairly harmless (and rather obvious) attempt at humor in the face of annoyance, and while a couple of people were offended, as is typical behavior from me, I saw something shiny and forgot about it, thinking that the whole thing was over and done and nothing else would come of what I said.

I was wrong.

At 9:45 last night, the Secret Service showed up on my mother's front door to talk to me about what I said about the President, as what I said could apparently be misconstrued as a threat to his life. After about ten minutes of talking to me and my family, they quickly came to the conclusion that I was not a threat to national security (mostly because we are the least threatening people in the entire world) and told me that they would not recommend that any further action be taken with my case. However, I do now have a file with the FBI that includes my photograph, my e-mail address, and the location of my LJ. This will follow me around for the rest of my life, regardless of the fact that the Secret Service knows that I am not a threat.

Obviously, I cannot link to the original LJ post that I made, because I have removed it from my LJ to protect myself and those who commented in that thread from receiving any further visits from the FBI. I apologized for the miscommunication, though I did *not* apologize for voicing my opinion of George W. Bush. I will never apologize for speaking my mind. I will, however, apologize when I say something wrong way and for unintentionally offending/threatening someone, because I am an extremely nonviolent person.

After having consulted an attorney to make sure that speaking about what happened to me will not incur another visit from the Secret Service, I am making this public post to tell you all several things:

1. Once and for all, I want to state for the record, again: I am a nonviolent person. As I told the Sekkrit Service last night, I don't know how to operate a gun. I've never had any military training. I don't even know how to throw a punch. I failed gym. I duck and cover when threatened with violence. I've said before that I could never join the military because I would totally start crying and wuss out and be the worst soldier ever, not because I want to sabotage the government, but because I'm just not cut out for it. Totally respect anyone and everyone who does, but me, personally? You don't WANT me in your army. In fact, you want me on the OTHER GUY'S team, because I will undoubtedly fuck things up. I'm a klutz.

2. Actually, #1 is so important that I'm repeating it again: Despite my occasional liberal ranting, I am a NONVIOLENT INDIVIDUAL. I would NEVER encourage others to harm another person, let alone the President of the United States, and I would never actually wish any serious bodily harm to come to him. I may wish other things (like I wish he would get thrown out of office in disgrace, or I wish that he would learn how to pronounce the word "nuclear", or I wish that he'd totally go apeshit on television and ruin himself by saying things like "RAAAAH I JUST SNORTED A BUNCH OF COKE AND I HATE OUR COUNTRY AND I BOUGHT MY PRESIDENCY RAAAAH!!!!11"), but I would NEVER wish bodily harm on another human being. It's just not my way.

3. What happened to me CAN happen to you. This is really the main reason why I am posting this publicly. I WANT you to make an example out of me. I want you to tell your friends to be CAREFUL about what they say on the Internet, because someone IS reading it and it CAN come back and bite you on the ass. And as nice as the Sekkrit Service dudes were (and honestly, they WERE very nice – we even gave them coffee and shit, and they laughed with us and were generally very cool about the entire situation), you don't want them coming to your house. It's just not very fun. Because …

4. What you say on the Internet can affect your real life. Due to what I said online, I now have an FBI file. And due to certain policies that a certain administration has instituted, I could now be placed on the government's "no-fly" list, could be subject to random searches of private property without my knowledge or permission, and could be subject to wiretapping surveillance. I doubt that any of these things will happen (except with the "no-fly" list – according to my attorney, that's a strong possibility and is something we are looking into), and I could just be being paranoid, but after the Secret Service showed up on my doorstep, I think I'm entitled to a little paranoia. Because shit, I never thought THAT would happen, either. So be aware.

5. What happened to me happened because someone on LJ reported me to the FBI. This is not idle speculation on my part. The Secret Service agent told me as much last night – the reason why they were there was because the FBI received a report about my post. It was not found through Google or through keyword searches. It was found through someone on LJ. This is just … mind-boggling and ridiculously wanky. I have my suspicions about who may have turned me in, but I'm not going to voice them because, well, what's been done is done. That being said, for anyone else out there who wants to get snarky and report others to the FBI, I'm telling you this right now: because of what happened to me, I am now going to have an FBI file following me around for the rest of my life. This may cause future problems for me in several different aspects of my life, and that kind of damage is permanent. So, yes, I am upset by the knowledge that someone on LJ would do that to me, but it teaches a valuable (if sad) lesson: you cannot trust LiveJournal, and you cannot trust fandom.

6. Because of what happened to me, I will now have to make changes to the way I use my LJ. I have always been very open on LiveJournal. I have never locked posts unless they directly dealt with my RL, and I have never deleted comments that others have made in my LJ. However, in order to protect myself (and YOU) legally, I am going to have to start carefully monitoring comments made in my LJ. I do not think the FBI will continue to monitor this journal, but I refuse to take chances with my life. So consider this a word of warning: If you make a comment in my journal that could in any way be misconstrued as a threat against any high-ranking official, I will have to delete it. It's nothing personal. It's just self-protection.

7. In spite of what happened to me, I will not lock any political posts I make, nor will I stop making political posts. This is important. I will not allow any form of government to make me afraid of voicing my own opinion. The way that I voice my opinion will certainly be impacted by what happened, but I will not stop talking altogether. And neither should you. I don't want to discourage my friends from speaking their minds. I simply want to tell y'all that you have to be ridiculously careful about how you do it, because otherwise, you can get into trouble.

I did make a locked and filtered post last night after all this first happened, because, well, I needed to talk about it. And I want to thank everyone who commented in that thread and gave me support and WTF and information, because it was EXTREMELY helpful and comforting in a time of great stress and OMGWTFBBQ THE SEKKRIT SERVICE CAME TO MY HOUSE OMG ;)

Now, at this juncture, I am not planning on making any kind of formal complaint with the A.C.L.U., as some on my friendslist have suggested. I did not feel that my civil rights were violated by the visit, and I did not feel intimidated by the Secret Service agents. I have, however, contacted an attorney simply because I want to ensure that my rights are protected in the future, and because the Secret Service were less than clear about what exactly can be construed as a threat and what would be done with my FBI file and any medical records they requested. I am not making any efforts to contact the media, and I doubt that I will in the future.

HOWEVER.

I want people to be aware that what they say on their LJ can cause problems for them in RL, because I love all of you and I don't wish what happened to me on you. You are more than welcome to discuss this post in your journal, and you are more than welcome to link to it from your journal. If you want to post this in a community, go for it. Hell, if you want to put me on fandom_wank, it's probably not a bad idea. The wankers would have a FIELD DAY with this. I know I would. Please, feel free to make an example out of me. So share this with your friends. Tell them what can happen. It's beneficial to all of us to know that this can happen, and hopefully, it'll prevent something like this from happening again.

Now, with all that said, I really, REALLY need some goddamn porn today. GAAAAAH.



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*in shock*
[info]muffinbutt
2004-10-27 10:19 (link)
Oh my god. I'm gobsmacked.

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Re: *in shock* - [info]heidi8, 2004-10-27 12:03:28

[info]maggiesox
2004-10-27 10:21 (link)
Oh, my God. I am so, so sorry, Annie. That's just...whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

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[info]novanumbernine
2004-10-27 10:22 (link)
oh.my. fucking. god!!!

do you mind if i link to this post in my own lj?

n.x

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(no subject) - [info]novanumbernine, 2004-10-27 10:24:40
(no subject) - [info]primroseburrows, 2004-10-27 10:26:28
(no subject) - [info]petdance, 2004-10-27 11:37:50
(no subject) - [info]bethmud, 2004-10-27 12:32:46
(no subject) - [info]poconell, 2004-10-27 12:38:31
(no subject) - [info]novanumbernine, 2004-10-27 13:11:31

[info]jackoweskla
2004-10-27 10:24 (link)
::hugs:: You poor thing. Although I agree with you, political officials are very nice people. Like the Marine recruiter that was "assigned" to me last year...

MARINE: Hey there, kid.
ME: Yo.
MARINE: It's my quarterly check-up on you. Still not planning on joining the Armed Forces, right?
ME: You still wouldn't take me. I'm too wimp-ass for a desk job.
MARINE: That's what I thought. ::hangs up::

Someday I shall have to tell you the story of how my dad got an FBI file. I tell you, it's the fashionable thing to have. :)

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(no subject) - [info]loonylaura, 2004-10-27 11:23:56

[info]ari_o
2004-10-27 10:25 (link)
This would make a great fandom wank - but uh - I think you have already had enough limelight.

Holy crap.

I echo muffin's gobsmacked.

How creepy.

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(no subject) - [info]ipomoea, 2004-10-27 10:28:35
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2004-10-27 10:29:43
(no subject) - [info]ipomoea, 2004-10-27 10:35:09
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2004-10-27 10:40:53
(no subject) - [info]elfgirl, 2004-10-27 10:41:55
(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2004-10-27 10:53:50
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-10-27 11:26:37
(no subject) - [info]anniesj, 2004-10-27 11:30:57

[info]ignited
2004-10-27 10:25 (link)
I can't say anything else different from what others have said, but I do know that I am sorry this happened to you. You really don't deserve that. Jeez, let them have linked it to fandom_wank, but not that. That's just moronic and ...well, insert other words here, on their part.

Now, with all that said, I really, REALLY need some goddamn porn today. GAAAAAH.

When I get home, I'll see if I can finish a little side thing I've been working on. Won't be mindblowing porn or anything of the sort, but it's something. not to mention ordering your gift! ::hugs:: If you need someone to talk to, y'know I'm here!

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(no subject) - [info]anniesj, 2004-10-27 11:25:37

[info]snowpiratess
2004-10-27 10:26 (link)
OMGWTF?!

*is horrified, and extremely glad theres a North Sea between self and such Orwellian happenings*

I offer any support I can. Please don't stop ranting, whatever you do!

(I would offer porn, but I don't have any fresh lying around, sorry)

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(no subject) - [info]just_a_few_more, 2004-10-27 11:39:36
(no subject) - [info]snowpiratess, 2004-10-27 12:46:30

[info]rani23
2004-10-27 10:27 (link)
Holy shit.

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[info]bailunrui
2004-10-27 10:27 (link)
I already mentioned my inability to form words about this, so I just wanted to say.

Annie, you rock. I support your decisions 100%. Don't let The Man get ya down.

*whistles Buffalo Springfield*

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[info]elfgirl
2004-10-27 10:27 (link)
I said it last night, and I'll say it again:

FUUUUUUCK.

Dwiv and I discussed the fact that someone had to have turned you in. I am beyond incredulous that someone would go so far, but there are fuckheads everywhere.

Welcome to 1984.

::looks suspiciously at you:: You're not having sex or anything subversive like that, are you? And, if you are, why am I not involved?

And, cause you liked them, ::more hugs::

Love you, sweetie.

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(no subject) - [info]elfgirl, 2004-10-27 10:31:59
(no subject) - [info]dwivian, 2004-10-27 11:03:04
(no subject) - [info]anniesj, 2004-10-27 11:27:52
(no subject) - [info]loony_moony, 2004-10-27 12:10:41

[info]morcowen
2004-10-27 10:28 (link)
I couldn't close my mouth while I read your entry. I'm just shocked and can't believe it. how... I mean what... ::shakes head and stares::
Sometimes I really wish I'd live on another planet. there are no words for that.

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[info]summers
2004-10-27 10:30 (link)
That's just so wrong on so many levels.

All this paranoia about presidents is getting out of control. Everything from media censorship to now personal censorship by the Secret Service... It's just going way out of proportion. At the book store we had Jimmy Carter signing his books and there were, like, 10 SS men around him. All of them were nice, but still. I was creeped out just being around them...and they had a REASON to be there.

Being in your home and writing on your LJ (a free community) shouldn't place you in the FBI files for speaking your mind in this supposedly FREE TO SPEAK country of ours...

If you have to delete this, I understand. I just wanted YOU to know how I felt.

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(no subject) - [info]cagewench, 2004-10-27 11:20:49
The Secret Service is *paid* to be paranoid - (Anonymous), 2004-10-27 11:25:53
Re: The Secret Service is *paid* to be paranoid - [info]anniesj, 2004-10-27 11:29:40

[info]raelala
2004-10-27 10:30 (link)
Just wanted to chime in and say that I will be linking to this in my LJ because it's fucking scary and freaked the crap out of me last night when I first read about it. I'm sorry it happened to you, Annie!

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(no subject) - [info]dennyd, 2004-10-27 12:45:50

[info]titti
2004-10-27 10:31 (link)
Hi,

I'm not on your flist, but doing my rounds for the [info]daily_snitch I came open this post.

I'm sorry that this happened to you and I have posted this on my lj. If you feel that my post in any way could affect you, please let me know and I will delete it.

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[info]ipomoea
2004-10-27 10:32 (link)
I was really shocked by the entry last night, but I am really glad you made a public post about it, because I think this is exactly the sort of thing people need to know about. Since you don't mind, I'll be linking to this entry, because I really, really think as many people as possible need to see this.

*also hugs you*

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[info]malhablada
2004-10-27 10:33 (link)
Whoa! My dear Annie had a run-in with Big Brother! Jesus, that's sobering.

I'm awful sorry if anything I posted added to your trouble, although I doubt it, since Team America hasn't kicked in my door yet.

*hugs* Good for you for not clamming up! Keep the political rants coming! We'll just have to be careful not to seem as if we're actively wishing death or dismemberment.

Sorry, dearie!

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(no subject) - [info]kittee, 2004-10-27 12:43:09
(no subject) - [info]malhablada, 2004-10-27 13:01:53
(no subject) - [info]malhablada, 2004-10-27 13:04:42

[info]tlace
2004-10-27 10:33 (link)
You are handling this with incredible grace and, I can't think of a better word, maturity. Truly an inspiration. Good luck with all the red tape and crap with which you're going to have to deal. And be proud of you, you're opinions and the fantastic attitude you've chosen to take under such extreme conditions!

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[info]tapedeck
2004-10-27 10:35 (link)
Good lord.

Quick, someone make a 'land of the free' comment. :/

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(no subject) - [info]nostalgia_lj, 2004-10-27 12:47:48

[info]jennilee
2004-10-27 10:35 (link)
Oh my god. I am so sorry that this happened to you (I came over here from [info]muffinbutt's post.)

This is really scary. I put this in my memories and will be linking it. If that's not okay with you, I'll delete it, okay? I think everyone needs to see this.

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(no subject) - [info]jennilee, 2004-10-27 12:06:08

[info]suzvoy
2004-10-27 10:35 (link)
Oh, my God. Oh my God. I just... *in shock*

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[info]xellas
2004-10-27 10:36 (link)
I wish I didn't believe you - that just sounds so 1984. I very much hope that this is the last you ever hear of it.

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[info]missatralissa
2004-10-27 10:36 (link)
OMG! AT first I thought you were just kidding the way only you do, then I realized you were serious and my head nearly exploded! First off I can't believe someone reported you! You do not deserve this, how could anyone think you would be serious? You enjoy amusing us, and yes you may state your true feelings, but you shouldn't be punished or monitored for it. *sigh* Who would have known Public enemy number one would be Annie!

*is in utter shock*

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[info]villainny
2004-10-27 10:36 (link)
I don't believe it. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I've linked to this post- thanks so much for the warning, for putting your story in public.

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[info]dettiot
2004-10-27 10:36 (link)
Just to echo what you said about what happens on LJ can affect your RL--my boss found my LJ earlier this year and told me I couldn't continue to make any statements about my job on my LJ. It's not like I have a sensitive job--I'm a librarian, for Christ's sake. For some reason, I was viewed as a problem for what I was expressing, but I was lucky--it wasn't like I was fired for what I was doing.

It's not in the same ballpark as your experience, of course. And I'm truly sorry you've had this experience, because if someone hadn't decided to report you, this wouldn't have happened. It makes me sad for fandom, it makes me sad for you, it makes me sad for myself, and it makes me sad for this country.

Thank you for sharing your story!

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(no subject) - [info]niemandsrose, 2004-10-27 11:09:21
(no subject) - [info]belinus, 2004-10-27 11:37:05
(no subject) - [info]kachichan, 2004-10-27 12:36:09
(no subject) - [info]belletragedie, 2004-10-27 13:25:24

[info]ifihadameadow
2004-10-27 10:36 (link)
For a foreigner to see this...

Holy Crap.

At least be glad that the FBI guys were nice to you. My class recently had a speaker that's been working with arabs in the States who were subject to FBI visits without having done anything wrong and in some cases they were so badly handled that they lost their jobs and everything because of FBI conduct.

Am in shock. Good luck!

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Woah - (Anonymous), 2004-10-27 12:03:31

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